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Cursed Locations

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:32 pm
by Low-N-Slow
Some locations just seemed to be cursed-- doomed to failure by their very geography. In Metairie, I can count four for sure. Working roughly east to west, there would be East William David at Vets (most recently Red Eye Grill, now a vacant lot); Oaklawn at Vets behind Burger King (currently La Famiglia, previously any number of places); Kingman at Vets behind KFC/Just For a Day/Starbucks (now Izzo's); and Turnbull at Vets behind Lakeside Safari Car Wash/Iberia Bank, the latter of which is now apparently the impending reincarnation of iconic Bucktown seafood joint Sid-Mar's. Can anyone overcome the historic propensity for eventual failure at each of these addresses? Is being "just off the main drag" the problem? Are there other locations you can cite which seem to follow the same pattern? Are there any other businesses you can name which have overcome a similar location curse? Do you think Sid-Mar's can successfully replicate themselves anywhere else besides Bucktown?

Re: Cursed Locations

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:51 am
by RouxTheDay
936 st. charles (le cirque)
628 st. charles (mike's on the avenue)

it's either the location(s) or vicky bailey. ;)

Re: Cursed Locations

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:28 am
by dragongrrl
Kenner, the corner of Vets and Williams. At least three things since Katrina.

Re: Cursed Locations

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:57 am
by Schuarta
Location. Location. Location. :hmm:

Re: Cursed Locations

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:28 pm
by bam bam
Fed Ex Field.

Re: Cursed Locations

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:49 pm
by Schuarta
Nothing's easy! Go SAINTS! :covri:

Tie at Halftime.

Re: Cursed Locations

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:48 am
by jshushan
RouxTheDay wrote:936 st. charles (le cirque)
628 st. charles (mike's on the avenue)

it's either the location(s) or vicky bailey. ;)
I think those spots die from lack of parking. Those two spot either have valet parking every minute you're open or you will go broke. To me, simple as that. Some locations simply must have parking or they will fail.

Jonathan

Re: Cursed Locations

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:40 pm
by dansteino
The Delachaise is housed in what had been a "cursed location." They have survived and done well.

Rule: Location, Location, Location

Exception #1: Businesses that are so good and unique that they evolve into "destination points" (i.e. Martin Wine Cellar (Baronne), Cure (Freret).

No bar Uptown has the alcohol/food selection of the Delachaise. Cure and the Avenue Pub also cater to this niche . . . but the niche is big enough (and growing) for all three players to thrive.

Exception #2: Busineses with video poker.

The Avenue Pub brings to mind the second problem. Bars/businesses with video poker make soooo much f#$king money from video poker that they do not have to run efficient/good businesses to survive. Polly does an unbelievable job running the Avenue Pub now. Before her the bar actually lost money . . . but the business made money because of the revenue from video poker.

Video poker is the primary reason that there is a dearth of bars with above average liquor selection in this City.

I am sure there are other exceptions to my rule.

Re: Cursed Locations

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:10 pm
by LiveOak
It's true. Most people are sheep and will not deviate even one block from the main drag (Vets for example). La Famiglia is a pretty good place and not even 1/2 block off of Vets. It's one building off of Vets and it gets avoided like the plague.

When I went to Gatlinburg this summer we found a little New Orleans place run by post-Katrina expats. It was not on the main drag through Gatlinburg but down a little shopping corridor. It was very quiet (as were all of the shops in this little cul-de-sac). The owner said she chose the location because rent, 50 feet away on the street, was three times as much.

Re: Cursed Locations

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:14 pm
by Jerry
Low-N-Slow wrote: Do you think Sid-Mar's can successfully replicate themselves anywhere else besides Bucktown?
Only if they can replicate the men's restroom....standing up straight was a challenge after you had a few...and you could see the lake through the floorboards.
Or so I remember :toast: