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Learning Chinese

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:46 am
by BobRSnow
Hey, does anyone know where one can find a program to learn Chinese and learn about culture & customs here in the nola area...in the summer?
Thanks.

Re: Learning Chinese

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:43 pm
by bdavid
In terms of the language, if you don't have a personal contact who will immerse you, Rosetta Stone is your best bet. It's not cheap, though.

Re: Learning Chinese

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:23 pm
by Dilfan
As bdavid said, "It's not cheap", but before I went out to buy it, I'd check to see if it was available in the library.

Re: Learning Chinese

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:05 am
by EatinAintCheatin
I hate to be the pessimist, but I want to be the realist. Based on much neurolinguistic study, a physiologically mature adult can only learn a new language in the left hemisphere. As a baby learns he will pick up the language in the right hemisphere where it becomes known as the automatic area of the speech center. That means that you must learn by practice. And considering the number of words and differenent dialects you have an uphill battle.

Even if you have a natural intellectual gift for language, you will have an extremely difficult time with Chinese. And without total immersion it will be all but impossible.

My company has hired and expat who lives in Shenzhen (South China Sea area). He's been there 4 years, totally immersed. In the last year he has finally been able to have minimal conversations (taxi, restaurant, how's the weather type).

If your goal is to pick up simple sayings such as "bring the check, take me to the hotel, show me where the western toilet is" then I think you will be successful. Notice that these are all directives. Ask a question and your head will hurt.

Learning the culture will be a little easier if you have a good, honest teacher.

I base this info on having a linguist in the family and my many trips to South China.

YMMV

Re: Learning Chinese

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:46 am
by Gourmondo
Tulane has Chinese classes, you can probably pay to audit the class. You may be able to find someone willing to tutor you, too. I've done that in the past because it fits my learning style. You could inquire at Tulane's Dept. of Asian Studies or even a high school teacher like Kathy Li at Newman. Sometimes grad students will tutor for a few extra bucks. Another resource is churches like the New Orleans Chinese Baptist and Chinese Presbyterian churches. You can find them online.

Tonal languages like Chinese, Thai, etc. are tough for most Westerners. Very small differences in tone can completely change the meaning of a word. I once tried to tell someone in Thailand that I was a doctor, but told them I was horse instead. Roars of laughter ensued. Have fun!

Re: Learning Chinese

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 10:50 am
by #7 throw away to do list.
dont want to pile on, but mandarin is virtually impossible to learn.

Re: Learning Chinese

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:35 pm
by BobRSnow
Thank you for your advice. I may contact the school and church. I contacted Tulane, but there is no summer program. I may have an opportunity to go to Shanghai later this year. I would have English speaking people around me, so I wouldn't be in a bind.
I would hope to learn to say hello and thank you and such phrases. I want to learn some customs so these pepole would see that I cared enough to learn something about their ways. Thanks again.

Re: Learning Chinese

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:18 pm
by Jeeves
EatinAintCheatin wrote:If your goal is to pick up simple sayings such as "bring the check, take me to the hotel, show me where the western toilet is".......
What, in the world, is a Western toilet?

Re: Learning Chinese

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:53 pm
by Gourmondo
Jeeves wrote:What, in the world, is a Western toilet?
The kind we use, that you can sit down on, as opposed to an Asian pit toilet, i.e., "squat and drop". Put it on your bucket list, Jeeves!

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BobRSnow wrote:Thank you for your advice. I may contact the school and church. I contacted Tulane, but there is no summer program. I may have an opportunity to go to Shanghai later this year. I would have English speaking people around me, so I wouldn't be in a bind.
I would hope to learn to say hello and thank you and such phrases. I want to learn some customs so these pepole would see that I cared enough to learn something about their ways. Thanks again.
If you just want to know basic phrases, taking a course is overkill unless you just want to do it. Rosetta Stone and Pimsleur are good products if you go that route. Because of the tones, if you can work with a native speaker for even part of it, it would probably be worth it. If you need a contact at the Chinese church, I can refer you to someone I know - PM me.

Chinese is tough but you can learn a little if you work at it!

Gourmondo - former foreign language major!

Re: Learning Chinese

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 12:38 am
by Oyster
Jeeves wrote:What, in the world, is a Western toilet?
Saddle horn and pistols?