Sarah Palin was magnificent!

[NoNoNanette]

Wow! She knocked my socks off tonite.

Dom has a dear childhood friend in Wasilla, Alaska.... the guy loves her.

I decided to wait until tonite to make a comment. (Have always liked Joe Biden, although a Republican for years)

I thought that Sarah was out of this world.

Honestly.... can't stand Mad McCain, but will gladly hold my nose and vote for McCain/Palin this time.... the alternative is frightening.

[ChoWeb]

Wow! She knocked my socks off tonite.

Dom has a dear childhood friend in Wasilla, Alaska.... the guy loves her.

I decided to wait until tonite to make a comment. (Have always liked Joe Biden, although a Republican for years)

I thought that Sarah was out of this world.

Honestly.... can't stand Mad McCain, but will gladly hold my nose and vote for McCain/Palin this time.... the alternative is frightening.


Are you kidding me? She couldn't give a coherent answer to the questions asked. She was terrible. Sure, not as bad as many were expecting but clearly out of her league. Were we watching the same debate? You could tell she'd be given her talking points, and more importantly, didn't have answers to the questions that were asked. She'd rush through them with her shoulders hunching up to her ears as she got farther and father off track. Not to mention it sounded like she'd gotten her foreign policy straight from Newsweek. Biden time and time again pointed out just how wrong she was on what she was saying and she had no rebuttal. None. I don't agree with everything Biden said, but at least I know he's a person that knows exactly what' he's all about, and not just cutesy winks. Nor did he resort to calling out the "hockey mom" around "joe six-pack" lines in an obvious attempt to draw attention away from the fact that she didn't have a clue what she was talking about (the serious issues at hand) and connect with the schmucks that would fall for that schtick.


Oh..and on a minor point..nuclear, not nu-cu-lar.

[mrpwp]

She more than held her own. She did quite well in fact.

[NoNoNanette]

Were we watching the same debate?

Apparently not!

Sarah was great...... and as I mentioned before, I actually LIKE Biden.

Not only did she "hold her own" mrpwp, I think that she ran away with the debate.

I'm tickled. :)

[ChoWeb]

Apparently not!

Sarah was great...... and as I mentioned before, I actually LIKE Biden.

Not only did she "hold her own" mrpwp, I think that she ran away with the debate.

I'm tickled. :)

Ok ok. I'll bite. So, what direct answer to a question did she give did you feel really clinched it for you? As far as I can tell, and I watched the whole thing, she dodged most issues, avoiding answering the tough questions and falling back on "connecting" with the common man. (She's middle class now? Hah.) What response to Biden's rebuttals did you feel she actually knocked it out of the park?

I'll give you that she "hit it out of the park," by not falling completely apart like people were expecting her to. So in that case, she "won" by not completely losing it?

Though, I'm sure enough people fell for her "folksy, down-home, sass." Christ, we're doomed.

[NoNoNanette]

You'll "bite"? :rolleyes:

Yeah, Cho.... I'm constantly trolling on this forum.

I'll give you that she "hit it out of the park," by not falling completely apart like people were expecting her to.

That's quite laughable. "people" were expecting her to flop????? Naw.... that was the liberal pundits HOPING that she would fail.

Thankfully, Sarah looked directly at the camera, and espoused her not-so-popular beliefs.

The gal is a straight shooter. She also did a wonderful job of showing how Joe Biden has had a complete turnaround with a few of his principles since suddenly entering this race.

As a Libertarian who FEARS the Socialist Obama, I'm happy to say that I'll enthusiastically endorse McCain/Palin.

I'll give you one thing, Cho- Joe was charming and was a gentleman. Always have liked the guy. :)

[NoNoNanette]

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4918G120081003?sp=true

She frequently displayed the folksy style that has become a favorite target of late-night comics. "Aw, say it ain't so, Joe," she told Biden at one point, adding a "doggone it" for good measure.


Awwww...... you're relying on your liberal handlers, aren't you, Cho???....

Though, I'm sure enough people fell for her "folksy, down-home, sass." Christ, we're doomed.

See- That's the fun thing about disassociating from a political party....in my case, Republicans. I'm able to "like" some of the opposition, and don't hesitate to say so.

On the other hand, there are pathetic souls who for some reason "drink the koolaid".... hey.... that's on you. Good luck in November, Cho. :p

[ChoWeb]

You'll "bite"? :rolleyes:

Yeah, Cho.... I'm constantly trolling on this forum.



That's quite laughable. "people" were expecting her to flop????? Naw.... that was the liberal pundits HOPING that she would fail.

Thankfully, Sarah looked directly at the camera, and espoused her not-so-popular beliefs.

The gal is a straight shooter. She also did a wonderful job of showing how Joe Biden has had a complete turnaround with a few of his principles since suddenly entering this race.

As a Libertarian who FEARS the Socialist Obama, I'm happy to say that I'll enthusiastically endorse McCain/Palin.

I'll give you one thing, Cho- Joe was charming and was a gentleman. Always have liked the guy. :)


I really didn't mean you were a troll. That wasn't my intention. Sorry if that is how I came across.

I feel as if she had a few paragraphs she'd memorized, and when stumped, and couldn't answer a question (which happened quite often) she'd fall back on what is a "straight-shooter act"..with the winks at the camera, and scripted response, no matter if was relevant to the question at hand or not.

Yes, there were a few points were Biden was in an awkward position, because his position has changed, but his job was to prop up Obama and her job was to prop up McCain. Biden did a smash up job of keeping his boss in play, while tearing down her arguments for McCain. She didn't even seem to know what her own guy had voted for or what his voting history or record was. She'd claim Obama voted one way, and Biden would point out that McCain voted the same way..and did it countless more times than Obama ever did.

I really was irritated by her first anwer to the question. They asked a direct question about how the current bills and economy needed to be handled, and while Biden stayed on task, talking about the bill, talking about Wall Street, and the deregulation (that McCain supported) that got us there, Palin was talking about Soccer moms and asking them about the economy. You and I know exactly that it was an attempt to cover the fact that she wasn't adequately prepared to face the challenge head on, but if she could win over voters (the undecided voters) by making it seem more like "I'm like one of you.." even if it had no substance, then it was a "win." Unfortunately, as I said before, I think the public at large is pretty dumb, and many will fall for it.

I respect you, Nannette, but I didn't find anything straight in her answers.

Ok, rereading your last comment about "liberal handlers" I'll retract my last statement. Folksy, I'll have you know, isn't a "special" term, and it isn't a hard one to come up with on your own. Maybe its a big word to you. I don't know. Is calling Obama a "Socialist" a sign of your "republican handlers?" I've voted republican in the recent past, too, so you can pat yourself on the back all you want for being able to see "past the party lines." You still haven't been able to answer my question directly. Who exactly is "drinking the koolaid (another frequently used republican catch-phrase)?"

[NoNoNanette]

I respect you, Nannette, but I didn't find anything straight in her answers.

Ok, rereading your last comment about "liberal handlers" I'll retract my last statement. Folksy, I'll have you know, isn't a "special" term, and it isn't a hard one to come up with on your own. Maybe its a big word to you. I don't know. Is calling Obama a "Socialist" a sign of your "republican handlers?" I've voted republican in the recent past, too, so you can pat yourself on the back all you want for being able to see "past the party lines." You still haven't been able to answer my question directly. Who exactly is "drinking the koolaid (another frequently used republican catch-phrase)?"

So much for the love-fest, huh, Cho? ;)

The term "liberal OR conservative handlers" isn't special. And, no.... it's not a "big word to me". :rolleyes:

One of the main reasons that I left the Republican party was because of the neo-con/right to life/pro israel thugs that had taken over "my party". I left when Pat Buchanan did.... because the "handlers" sickened me.

Mary Matlin, James Carville or William Cristol can spew as much spin as they want.... It's going to go in one ear and out the other for this voter.

Again, I feel that Sarah was MAGNIFICENT tonite.... I don't care for her pro-life views, and I don't like McCain.

[NoNoNanette]

Am I the only one who doesn't "edit" my responses????????

Kinda frustrating. :whip:

[Pelican Six]

Ok ok. I'll bite. So, what direct answer to a question did she give did you feel really clinched it for you? As far as I can tell, and I watched the whole thing, she dodged most issues, avoiding answering the tough questions and falling back on "connecting" with the common man. (She's middle class now? Hah.) What response to Biden's rebuttals did you feel she actually knocked it out of the park?

I'll give you that she "hit it out of the park," by not falling completely apart like people were expecting her to. So in that case, she "won" by not completely losing it?

Though, I'm sure enough people fell for her "folksy, down-home, sass." Christ, we're doomed.

"Connecting" with the common man is what campaigns are all about. Seems to me that you're upset that she pulled it off so deftly. After all, people are only supposed to "connect" with the Obamessiah, not some chillbilly, inbred snow-whore from Wasilly, right?

[Schuarta]

Why does no one comment on the WHOPPERS Biden was spewing all night! If his nose grew with each lie, it would have hit the cameras in front of him.

The biggest WHOPPER, which he repeated four times, was that under Obama's rule, no one making under $250,000 a year would pay one penny more in taxes. When Sara mentioned small businesses, he modified his statement to say no individual or small business making under $250,000 a year would pay one penny more in taxes.

Cho, can you honestly and with a straight face tell me you believe this?

[Schuarta]

PS: Someone I know, "who is in the know", in politics, has told me that the "October Surprise" will occur when B. Hussein Obama replaces Biden with Clinton as the vice-president candidate,

Remember, you heard it here! :D

[ChoWeb]

"Connecting" with the common man is what campaigns are all about. Seems to me that you're upset that she pulled it off so deftly. After all, people are only supposed to "connect" with the Obamessiah, not some chillbilly, inbred snow-whore from Wasilly, right?

Connecting with the common man is a part of what the campaigns are about. After that, you better be able to answer direct questions about the issues, which she incapable of doing. She pulled it off deftly, I guess, if you're a simpleton and all you need is someone to talk to you about being a soccer mom or "joe-six pack," without offering much in the way of substance. Yes, it does upset me that many people are so incredibly gullible, and I think it speaks volumes about our ailing education system. Facts seem to go "in one ear and out the other" for many voters.

I know most on this board, to use your own parlance "has drank the Koolaid" for the little piece of fluff that Palin is (really, this is the best woman your party could find?) so we may just have to agree to disagree.

Schuarta, like I said before, I don't believe everything he said (and that was one of the statements that made me go, "huh?"), but if it was such a whopper, why didn't Palin take him to task over it? She should have. Why didn't she take him to task when he tore in McCain's healthcare plan? She didn't say peep. Instead, she fell back on looking in the camera "connecting with the common man" to hide the fact that she couldn't form an cogent response.

Nannette, I didn't change any sentences but to fix grammar, punctuation (I'd had a martini last night), and add another thought. It seemed more economical than posting multiple posts in a row.

[Shep]

Why does no one comment on the WHOPPERS Biden was spewing all night! If his nose grew with each lie, it would have hit the cameras in front of him.

The biggest WHOPPER, which he repeated four times, was that under Obama's rule, no one making under $250,000 a year would pay one penny more in taxes. When Sara mentioned small businesses, he modified his statement to say no individual or small business making under $250,000 a year would pay one penny more in taxes.

Cho, can you honestly and with a straight face tell me you believe this?

Biden told outright lies atleast five times, on everything from voting records to tax plans. He repeated things he and Obama believed in concerning Bosnia etc that took place before Obama was even on the politcal scene, but then he never was very good with time lines. As to why she did not call him down on them, some I am sure she did not even know about but part of it is, you have a limited amount of time to make the points she did feel comfortable with. Biden did well not to blow his stack and get abusive and he has been around a long time, even if he sometimes forgets how long when speaking of "him and Obama". I think she did way, way better than I was expecting which makes her a clear winner, I mean the bar was set so low by the Democrats, but then that was their ill thought out planning.

[ChoWeb]

Biden told outright lies atleast five times, on everything from voting records to tax plans. He repeated things he and Obama believed in concerning Bosnia etc that took place before Obama was even on the politcal scene, but then he never was very good with time lines. As to why she did not call him down on them, some I am sure she did not even know about but part of it is, you have a limited amount of time to make the points she did feel comfortable with. Biden did well not to blow his stack and get abusive and he has been around a long time, even if he sometimes forgets how long when speaking of "him and Obama". I think she did way, way better than I was expecting which makes her a clear winner, I mean the bar was set so low by the Democrats, but then that was their ill thought out planning.

Palin had, by count a fair share of lies and I'll be fair and call them "mistakes" in her own telling of her version of facts (even about ones in her own state). But you are reaffirming my point, the only way she "won" was by not falling completely apart. Winning by not completely losing it isn't exactly a strong win, or even a win in my book.

We'll agree to disagree. Like I said on the other board, in the end public has spoken, the debate didn't push undecided voters one way or the other way (though by some polls, they favor Biden by a small margin unless you look at the Drudge report :shootself:), and everyone who was already decided didn't change their position. McCain needed it to be a strong win because at this point of the game he is behind. A statistical "draw" was not good news for him. This could all change again with the next debate, and if anything, it will be exciting.

[Blue Cross Sux]

PS: Someone I know, "who is in the know", in politics, has told me that the "October Surprise" will occur when B. Hussein Obama replaces Biden with Clinton as the vice-president candidate,

Remember, you heard it here! :D
Care to place a bet on this?

[Alex]

It was a much more enjoyable debate to watch then the first one - that one almost made me sick. I thought it was a draw. They both told some whoppers and Biden was wrong on a few of McCains votes. Palin came across well.

I amazed that Nanette is able to look past her crush on the "Silver Fox" and give Palin credit ;) That speaks volumes - lol.

[cstoehr]

I also heard the "rumor" that Biden is going to drop out with an "illness" and Clinton will come on board.

We taped the debate last night so I will have to watch the whole thing and then give my opinion. I saw some highlights on the morning news and it appears neither one "knocked it out of the park". I agree with some of the posters earlier that everyone seemed to be banking on total failure of Palin and that according to what I have seen in bites, that she did well. I will have to see for myself.

I can say, wow, at least she looked good for the debate, what an outfit. (she has gotten jabs at her dumpy outfits so I thought I would throw that in)

:)

[dragongrrl]

Palin didn't embarrass herself and her charm (of which she has bags and bags) carried the day. She does connect with people. She's cute, perky, ambitious, and I don't think she's ready. I didn't like all the winking. I am a Democrat, but I'm not crazy for the big O. I like him better than McCain, however.

I don't think Palin did magnificent unless you were expecting her to suck badly. Both of them lied.

I liked Biden more after the debate.

I don't think Cho has handlers. She seems to think for herself.