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Pelican Six
08-29-2008, 12:23 PM
I think it's another brilliant move by McCain's campaign. I still am not thrilled he's the nominee, but I have to hand it to his handlers, they've played this season with lots of savvy.

Obviously, it's a play for disaffected Hillary voters. The biggest turn off for them is going to be her pro-life stance, but she's got a built-in rebuttal. Her fifth child, born in April, has Down's Syndrome. She knew this in advance and made the, ahem... choice to keep the baby.

Conversely, Obama voted against a bill while in the Illinois Senate that would have required doctors to render medical care to babies born alive after attempted abortions. Testimony in the case was given by a nurse who held a baby for 45 min while it struggled for life, after doctors had placed it in a utility closet, waiting for it to die, but unwilling to watch the consequences of their inaction.

And the reason this baby was aborted in the first place? It had Down's Syndrome. (http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/brianwolanin/gG5KRV/commentary) Attack Palin for her views and watch the Rethuglicons drag Jill Stanek out of the woodwork:

From the moment of her testimony, Stanek sensed she was in trouble: She recalled an incident when she was asked to take an aborted Down’s Syndrome baby to the hospital “Soiled Utility Room,” where the “attempted-aborted” babies were sent to take their final breaths. The little boy’s parents did not want to hold him, and none of the other nurses could find the time or bear the agony. Stanek remembers rocking the baby in her arms for the final 45 minutes that he suffered an excruciating life. “He was too weak to move very much,” she remembered, “expending any energy he had trying to breathe. Toward the end, he was so quiet that I couldn’t tell if he was still alive unless I held him up to the light to see if his heart was still beating through his chest wall.”

This incident took place at Christ Hospital, which would fire Stanek for her testimony.

Stanek was struck by Sen. Barack Obama’s cold, non-response to her testimony: Interviewed for this article, she told us that he appeared “unmoved” by her testimony and “even argued against it.” He told her, “What we are doing here is to create one more burden on a woman and I can’t support that.” Perhaps signaling his April 2008 remarks about his daughters, Obama could not imagine these un-desiring mothers being “punished with a baby.”

Obama gazed right past Stanek’s image of a gasping, dying, abandoned, newborn baby and instead saw an over-riding moral imperative: a woman’s “health-care choice.”


Please, please, PLEASE bring this issue up, Democrats. It is a loser, and you know it. The Born Alive Infant Protection Act is now federal law. Guarantee you the Obamessiah does not want his support of infanticide dragged into the light.

Back to Palin - more executive experience than either Obama or Biden, so pretty safe from that charge. Pro-gun hunter, pro-life, which shores up the Republican conservative base, and also gives her a strong argument that abortion views notwithstanding, a bunch of Hillary's PUMAs are in play.

This is shaping up to be one of the most interesting election cycles in my lifetime.

Alex
08-29-2008, 12:38 PM
I do not know much about her, but given that she is a governor she has some if not a lot (not sure how long she has been governor) executive experience. I think it was a decent pick and also agree that it is an attempt to pick up a few more of the disinfranchised Hillary voters.

flyinbayou
08-29-2008, 12:45 PM
Interesting.

Pelican Six
08-29-2008, 01:01 PM
Hey, flyinbayou - she also flies her own float plane.

kcdixiecat
08-29-2008, 01:19 PM
I am now getting excited about this election. I'm so sick of Obama, the Clinton's..etc. I haven't been all that thrilled with McCain as of late...but now...I think this was a brilliant move!

Oh and another thing...was it just me and my jaded views...but did anyone else find this DNC's speeches..incredibly boring? I was disappointed.

C'mon November and C'mon McCain and Palin!

Schuarta
08-29-2008, 01:20 PM
Check out the new VP candidate!

http://bp2.blogger.com/_uExTzMIDd1Y/R2O5nKq9_tI/AAAAAAAAATE/At2bb_K_3ao/s400/Sarah-Palin-Vogue.jpg

peychaud
08-29-2008, 02:12 PM
She has been governor of America's 47th most populous state for less than two years, and is just 20 months removed from having served as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska (pop. 10,000), the "Duct Tape Capital of the World."

If the responsibilities of president were limited to fighting litter or combating that speeding problem out on Route 1, Palin would be a great VP choice.

And this is who the 72-year-old-and-looking-more-feeble-every-day John McCain feels comfortable with being a heartbeat away from the presidency!?! :covri:

McCain has just demonstrated the poor judgment Obama accused him of in about as dramatic a way as possible.

And if you think Hillary supporters will vote McCain just because he picked a female running mate, you are utterly delusional. Palin is anti-abortion. The overwhelming majority of Hillary supporters are pro choice and more than 60 percent of all Americans support the Roe v. Wade decision. McCain may have made some points with the far right, but they weren't going to vote for Obama anyway. Plus, she's got a dismal record on the environment (and not just for her support of drilling in ANWAR), another reason for Hillary voters to avoid her like the plague.

Nice job, John! You've succeeding in bringing nothing to the ticket!

Oh, and I would love for Jill Stanek to become a central figure in this election. Have you bothered to read anything she's written other than her biased and unreliable personal reflections on how Obama is a big meanie because he didn't break down in tears at her manipulative and carefully calculated testimony? LOL! Props to Obama for standing up to her grandstanding histrionics.

She's bat**** crazy. Bring it on. Align McCain with "pro-life." The Democrats couldn't ask for anything better.

Schuarta
08-29-2008, 02:16 PM
peychaud, eat your heart out! All you have left is to reach up and pull the flush lever! :D

Pelican Six
08-29-2008, 02:52 PM
peychaud, eat your heart out! All you have left is to reach up and pull the flush lever! :D

I second that emotion. Peychaud, you reek of fear!

All McCain had going for his candidacy was "Anyone but Obama". Remember how well that worked out for Kerry? Now he's energized the base, which is a must-have in the general election.

Love, love, LOVE the digs at her "inexperience." She has more executive experience than Obama, McCain and Biden combined. What has Obama done other than run for office on empty platitudes? What tangible accomplishments can he point to? What stands on principle has he made?

No foreign policy experience? How about dealing with Canada and Russia on transportation and fishing agreements?

Her story is picture-perfect American Dream type stuff. No wonder you are so worked up! Love it!

Loving the liberal reaction to this pick.

LOL! Props to Obama for standing up to her grandstanding histrionics.

HA HA!!! Stupid woman - holding a baby that was tossed into a utility closet to die! Props to my man B-Rock for not falling for that shizznit!

Yeah - I think you're going to find out just how out of touch with mainstream America you and Senator Lightworker are with mainstream America come this November.

Schuarta
08-29-2008, 03:05 PM
Your right Pelican Six. This picture is even better!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2809350638_fdd210c4b7.jpg?v=0

Dark and Stormy
08-29-2008, 06:12 PM
Yeesh. Team Barry is actually bringing up the experience thing? Talk about bad judgement. I would certainly rather have a tough gal with common sense and executive experience one heartbeat away than a guy who can't even manage his own VP selection well in the top job. 3:00 AM SMS? Nicely done. And who did he pick? Another senatard. Biden? That must have been like getting socks for Christmas for most of the net roots types, not to mention the PUMAs. The left is going to be bitter about being trumped at their own game of identity politics.

Alex
08-30-2008, 12:13 AM
Your right Pelican Six. This picture is even better!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2809350638_fdd210c4b7.jpg?v=0

Not to hijack - but I need I scope like that. It needs to be able to mount on the carry handle (preferably). If anyone has a recommendation PM me.

Oyster
08-30-2008, 02:48 PM
She has been governor of America's 47th most populous state for less than two years, and is just 20 months removed from having served as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska (pop. 10,000), the "Duct Tape Capital of the World."





BAWAHAHAHA!!!!

This is like 50 tons more experience than your empty vessel propped up with stadium celebrity bull**** which will not sell to the population of the United States. It only sells to the idiot media and Hollywood.

Dude, that was a REALLY dumb thing to say....

PNG
08-30-2008, 03:26 PM
No qualifications other than being a double minority needed. What a "country."

PNG
08-30-2008, 03:28 PM
Not to hijack - but I need I scope like that. It needs to be able to mount on the carry handle (preferably). If anyone has a recommendation PM me.

Stay away from those idiotic AR-15's and buy an M1A instead.

peychaud
08-30-2008, 05:27 PM
I honestly am starting to wonder whether McCain secretly wants to lose the election. At least Biden was picked to address Obama's perceived lack of foreign policy experience, like Bush choosing Cheney. It made sense if you think of a ticket like a team that needs complementary players.

But Palin? McCain had no previous relationship with or knowledge of her and she was actually a Romney supporter (who would have been a much stronger VP pick, by the way). Choosing Palin is a pretty obvious grab for the Hillary vote, but, uh, Palin is on record as opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest (a view opposed by 70 percent of the population!) and she has called Hillary and her supporters "whiners." LOL! Good luck getting those pro-choice "whiners" to jump ship and vote for your pro-life ticket!

If you wanna get into flip flopping and pork barrel politics, you've got her voting for the Bridge to Nowhere before she voted against it, and her only reason for voting against it was because reform minded Democrats finally stripped away the earmark. If the Feds would have paid for it (ie if you and I would have paid for it), Palin would have had no problem approving what the Heritage Foundation called "a national embarrassment." LOL! Did McCain not bother to check anything before selecting her?

Then you've got Wootengate, the bipartisan ethics investigation of her currently underway in Alaska. No, that won't be a distraction to the ticket. :laughup:

Then we come to her environmental record. She doesn't believe in global warming and she wants to take polar bears off the endangered species list. A perfect combination.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB113452435089621905-vnekw47PQGtDyf3iv5XEN71_o5I_20061214.html

Here's a good article that sums up Palin's likely performance: Belly flop.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/156258

I cannot wait for the debates. Biden will run circles around Palin, and Obama will embarrass the increasingly old and disoriented looking McCain, who still seems to have difficulty distinguishing between Shiites and Sunnis.

bam bam
08-30-2008, 09:35 PM
Sarah Pallin is Ted Nugent in a dress. After being snubbed by the Republican Party for years, I finally get what I want. I can't believe McCain of all people gave it to me.

Blue Cross Sux
08-30-2008, 09:49 PM
Sarah Pallin is Ted Nugent in a dress.
I agree, wholeheartedly.

God, we're getting along so well lately.

cstoehr
08-31-2008, 11:13 AM
Now that is scary LOL.

RouxTheDay
09-09-2008, 11:40 AM
http://lh4.ggpht.com/ralonzo13/SMaYmOV9q_I/AAAAAAAAAJ8/9oHuJKkBb8I/OMAMA.jpg