Is this the kind of change we can believe in?

[Alex]

After Obama's pick of that tired old horse - Joe Biden, who as of a few months ago went on the record saying Tulane University is underwater, it appears the democrats are going hog wild at the convention. Nothing new there.

So I am still waiting for some change I can believe in, because as of right now the dems are in Denver drinking Champagne and eating Caviar (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Conventions/story?id=5648474&page=1) while most of us are trying to figure out how to pay for our gasoline.

I also seem to remember Nany Pelosi's crew was supossed to bring change to congress. They have not. In fact, Congress has a lower approval rating then W Bush.

Same old dems, nothing changes but the names.

[Mac da Knife]

Just wait till they roll out Teddy K. with his cancer (who's suffering for America) to really stir the pot.

[Rollista]

You can't be much more excited about McCain, can you?

[Mac da Knife]

No.

I'm not even voting.
This has become a joke.

America is dead, and ready for the taking.

[Alex]

You can't be much more excited about McCain, can you?

More, but not much more.

[Alex]

LOL - in addition to the lobbyist's parties going on we now have racial infighting at the dem convention as well:

"He called me an 'Uncle Tom!'" - "no I did not, I called her a 'doubting Thomas'"

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/25/chicago-clinton-supporter-obama-mentor-called-me-uncle-tom/

[Alex]

... and the orgy continues...

"That's where money meets power, behind closed doors," said Miller, "the parties and events that are really just set aside for the most elite."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Conventions/story?id=5657835&page=1

[BTG]

They actually were going to let an unemployed nurse speak tonight. I can't think of a more fitting symbol of the democratic party than a freakin unemployed nurse who is probably going to take the stage and somehow blame her problems on Bush. Never mind the fact that nurses are about as high demand a job right now as any out there and hospitals are begging for them.

[peychaud]

They actually were going to let an unemployed nurse speak tonight. I can't think of a more fitting symbol of the democratic party than a freakin unemployed nurse who is probably going to take the stage and somehow blame her problems on Bush. Never mind the fact that nurses are about as high demand a job right now as any out there and hospitals are begging for them.

She's unemployed due to health problems, not an inability to find work, and she is supporting Obama because she and her husband are now unable to afford health care despite having worked their entire lives. It took me all of a single mouse click to find that out.

[BTG]

She's unemployed due to health problems, not an inability to find work, and she is supporting Obama because she and her husband are now unable to afford health care despite having worked their entire lives. It took me all of a single mouse click to find that out.

I posted it before she talked. Just seemed like something the dems would throw out there, so excuse me for being wrong on the subject.

[Pelican Six]

She's unemployed due to health problems, not an inability to find work, and she is supporting Obama because she and her husband are now unable to afford health care despite having worked their entire lives. It took me all of a single mouse click to find that out.

What I found with my mouse click was a morbidly obese woman with a smoker's rasp - not exactly surprising that she needed quadruple-bypass surgery. And her surgery did not leave her unable to work (http://www.newsobserver.com/news/chatham/story/1192433.html).


Cash-Roper, a licensed nurse, had her quadruple bypass surgery in 2004. It fixed her clogged arteries but left her with constant chest pain. She had to quit her job as a cook at a Pittsboro diner.


Why was she able to work as a cook in a diner, but not as a nurse? And how does she expect her health to improve if she's not going to comply with the healthier lifestyle that post-op life demands?

More importantly, why does she think that a national health plan is going to help people like her? Britain's National Health Service is facing huge budgetary problems (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6180991.stm) because of rising obesity.



And Steve Webb, health spokesman for the Liberal Democrats, said: "This staggering analysis must be a wake-up call for the government, which has failed to get a grip on key public health challenges such as obesity. "At a time when an emphasis on prevention is needed more than ever, the NHS is slashing public health spending simply to make ends meet."



Even more importantly, socialized medicine means rationing, which means poorer quality of care for everyone. Look at the hot flaming mess (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/20/health/main681801.shtml?cmp=EM8705) that is Canada's system:

Americans who flock to Canada for cheap flu shots often come away impressed at the free and first-class medical care available to Canadians, rich or poor. But tell that to hospital administrators constantly having to cut staff for lack of funds, or to the mother whose teenager was advised she would have to wait up to three years for surgery to repair a torn knee ligament.

[SNIP]

"Every day we're paying for health care, yet when we go to access it, it's just not there," said Pelton.

The average Canadian family pays about 48 percent of its income in taxes each year, partly to fund the health care system. Rates vary from province to province, but Ontario, the most populous, spends roughly 40 percent of every tax dollar on health care, according to the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

[SNIP]

It calculates that at present rates, Ontario will be spending 85 percent of its budget on health care by 2035. "We can't afford a state monopoly on health care anymore," says Tasha Kheiriddin, Ontario director of the federation. "We have to examine private alternatives as well."

The federal government and virtually every province acknowledge there's a crisis: a lack of physicians and nurses, state-of-the-art equipment and funding. In Ontario, more than 10,000 nurses and hospital workers are facing layoffs over the next two years unless the provincial government boosts funding, says the Ontario Hospital Association, which represents health care providers in the province.

And this is what you want for this country? No, thanks.

EDITED TO ADD: I almost forgot - in addition to the 48% combined federal and provincial taxes on their income, Canadians in Ontario also enjoy paying a combined 13% sales tax on every purchase, unless it's for entertainment or drinking at a restaurant, when it's 15%. When I was passing out paychecks up there, I was shocked at what their net pay was compared to the gross. Getting your titty squeezed 'til it's purple and then being told you have to wait years for surgery - what a deal!

[bam bam]

I loved the woman Hillary referenced in her speech. A single mom who adopted to autistic kids and now she has breast cancer and the hours at her minimum wage job have now been cut.

I texted my buddy "this person does not exist."

He texts me back "don't austistic kids get medicaid anyway?"

[Rollista]

Speaking of change, here's a list of McCain's 74 flipflops; they're getting hard to keep track of :)

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops

[peychaud]

I loved the woman Hillary referenced in her speech. A single mom who adopted to autistic kids and now she has breast cancer and the hours at her minimum wage job have now been cut.

I texted my buddy "this person does not exist."

He texts me back "don't austistic kids get medicaid anyway?"

She was bald, too.

[Dharma41]

Speaking of change, here's a list of McCain's 74 flipflops; they're getting hard to keep track of :)

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops

McCain campaign's tag line is NOT Change we can believe in....

:D :D :D

Also, to be fair to republicans, where are Obama's flip flops? The site you posted looks like of some Democrat with an axe to grind against McCain.