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RouxTheDay
08-15-2008, 09:39 AM
I've only tried this a few times but it kicked my butt! This will be interesting to say the least!



High-alcohol Abita Andygator gets full head of steam leading up to its debut in bottles

Posted by The Times-Picayune (http://blog.nola.com/tpmoney/about.html) August 14, 2008 9:46AM

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DAVID GRUNFELD/THE TIMES-PICAYUNE
Abita's Andygator, which until now has been sold only on tap, will go on sale in 22-ounce bottles in January.
When it first began brewing a beer called Andygator in the late 1990s, Abita Brewing Co. considered it an occasional beverage line.
"We just made a brew every once in a while of it," said David Blossman, president of the St. Tammany Parish brewing company. "We didn't make it commercially available for sale until about three years ago."
Since then, sales of the upstart brew, which is 8 percent alcohol and still available only on draft, have taken hold.

"It's done fantastic," said Blossman, who plans to begin selling Andygator in 22-ounce bottles in January.

High-alcohol brews like Andygator, known in the trade as big or extreme beers, are among the many craft beers that are grabbing a growing share of the nation's beer market. Extreme beers are reshaping the beverage's image and helping craft brewers grow at a time when many of the nation's largest beer-makers, including Anheuser-Busch and Miller Brewing Co., are undergoing consolidation.

"Extreme beers is such a vague category, it's something that changes all the time," Blossman said. But generally speaking, extreme beers push the envelop in terms of flavor, alcohol content or both.

"It's anything that's outside the norm," Blossman said. And consumers seem to have an appetite for it.

Last year craft brewers posted 17.1 percent growth over 2006 and accounted for 6.5 percent of the $9 billion in supermarket beer sales in the United States, up from 4.5 percent in 2003. Some expect growth in extreme beers to help craft brewers make further inroads in the overall beer market, which is valued at $95 billion, including sales in bars and restaurants.

"It is not a fad," said Julia Herz, director of craft beer marketing for the Brewers Association, a trade group based in Denver that represents more than 1,000 of the 1,400 craft breweries in the nation. "It's a solid direction the market is going."

It is uncertain how fast craft beers will continue to grow, but Herz said the indicators are good. After a shakeout in the mid-1990s, the nation's remaining 1,400 craft brewers have a stronger hold on shelf space and restaurant menus. Anheuser-Busch and Coors are making their own line of full-flavored beers. And the Brewers Association's book "Start Your Own Brewery" has sold more than 1,000 copies.

"A brewery in every town is not so crazy to think about in the future," Herz said. "It all goes back to the movement of consuming products that are locally produced."

Growing out of home-brewers' efforts to emulate British and German beers, craft beers started showing up in the United States about 30 years ago, and larger varieties bubbled up in the mid-1990s on both coasts as brew masters chased their fantasies to the outer limits.

Abita Brewing got its start in 1986 when it began producing Abita Amber. With an alcohol content of 4.5 percent, Amber remains the company's strongest line.

By today's standards, Amber is not considered extreme, but it was 20 years ago.

"People would say 'Wow, look at that beer. Wow, look at the flavor.' Back then, you'd consider Amber kind of an extreme beer," Blossman said. "Our first beers were all extreme. Twenty-two years later, they're not."

That's because consumers' taste for beer is evolving.

"People are a lot more sophisticated now," Blossman said. "People are just flocking to more flavor, and that's what we pride ourselves on. We try to make full-flavored ales."

Abita Brewing will be coming out with another 8 percent brew in January called Abbey.

buzd
08-15-2008, 10:30 AM
Cool. Andygator is REALLY good, but it has always kicked my butt, too.

flyinbayou
08-15-2008, 10:45 AM
Good news, indeed!

And just in time for the Saints' playoff games! WooHoo!

Duke
08-15-2008, 02:34 PM
We've been selling AndyGator on tap for the past week and it's the slowest-selling beer we've ever stocked (and, yes, we've advertised it on the sign out front, facing Magazine St.).

I pulled it out this morning and replaced it with the Heiner Brau Kolsch (which was there originally anyway) and we've already sold more Kolsch in a day than all week pushing the AndyGator. If we get requests, we can hook it up again, but all we've heard so far is cheers for the return of the Heiner Brau.

BTG
08-15-2008, 02:43 PM
Andygator is one of my least favorite Abita products, but I am happy that they are going to be getting something else out there to get more people drinking stuff other than bud/coors/miller.

Turbodog
08-15-2008, 03:24 PM
Even I am not a big fan o fthe Andygator. But I will tell you this, those that like it are almost fanatical about it. It is the leading seller as far as growlers at the brew pub are concerned.

I am much more excited about the Abbey Ale coming out.

Nowadays, its mostly Jockamo IPA and Turbodog for me.

Doctor_Technical
08-15-2008, 03:31 PM
As one of those growler-buyers, Duke's comment about having an un-hooked -- and I assume still-populated -- AG tank makes me go "hmmm...". :-)

Blue Cross Sux
08-15-2008, 05:13 PM
I am much more excited about the Abbey Ale coming out.
I'm intrigued. Can you tell us anything more about it?

JRO
08-15-2008, 08:36 PM
The first time I drank Andy Gator, I ordered up a pint. The bar I was in said I shouldn't order more than a wine glass full. Strong, but I like it in small quantities.

When playing in a dart league, we would try to get our unknowledgable opponents to drink it. Got to get any advantage you can.

flyinbayou
08-15-2008, 09:34 PM
Micks on Bienville (if you haven't been there I would highly suggest it)
started carrying it on tap a week ago.
While I cannot make a full night of it, it is a nice matini beer OR dessert beer.

In other words, one is enough for me.

Now pass the Sierra Nevada!:D

Duke
08-15-2008, 09:58 PM
As one of those growler-buyers, Duke's comment about having an un-hooked -- and I assume still-populated -- AG tank makes me go "hmmm...". :-)


If we get a request, it's no problem to hook it up and go. We're keeping it cold and ready if needed.

I'm also intrigued by the Abbey -- and I'm sure we'll be putting it out there when it's ready to go.

JonSmith
08-16-2008, 12:18 PM
I've never been so violently ill as I was when I once went to a cigar dinner at the abita brew pub. I'm a significant lightweight when it comes to cigars and the cigars they had were very, very strong. Add a few Andygators to light the powder keg and before I knew it I was depositing the contents of my dinner on the side of the brew pub.

I was able to convince my date I had the flu which hid the fact that I have a glass jaw when it comes to cigars, she was smoking me out two to one.

That was in '95. To this day I can not stomach the smell of andygator.

.....Nowadays, its mostly Jockamo IPA ....

The best beer Abita has ever brewed, bar none.

Hadacol
08-17-2008, 10:27 AM
Funny you mentioned that dinner. We were just talking about it the other night. It was, as you say, a little much. I can't remember exactly, but there was a cigar with every course and I think it must have ended up being 5 or 6 of them. I tasted those things for days and days after that night.

Didn't lose my taste for Andygator, however. For a product that started off as a kind of reward/joke/one off, it's certainly had some legs over the years.

And, just for the record, it was available in bottles, briefly. We had a four pack of these little 7 ounce bottles that we ran til we ran out of the bottles. Sold pretty well, actually.

Mac da Knife
08-17-2008, 10:57 AM
Long ago, maybe 7-8 years, the Brew Pub used to host "guest brews"; brews from other craft brewers, on tap.

Once it was an ale called "Chillsner", which was infused with chili peppers.

That was the best beer I ever had.

Hadacol
08-17-2008, 12:28 PM
I'm pretty sure, unless it was done twice, that the "chilsener" would have been, almost, exactly, 10 years ago. Seems like that was what was on when the ownership changed hands.

It was good, though.

Mac da Knife
08-17-2008, 12:55 PM
Yep. You're correct.
That was before the Blossman's took over.

Wish I could find that beer again.

Doctor_Technical
08-17-2008, 12:56 PM
I'm glad you mentioned it having been briefly bottled - I have long recalled learning about AG when some evaluation bottles showed up at The Zephyr's studios, but that would have been around '96, eh?

Enjoying a North Coast Brewing Co. Old Stock Ale (12.5 % ABV) as I write this. Pretty tasty; will be interesting to compare it with Abita's new bottled products.

justagirl
08-17-2008, 01:18 PM
Years ago, back in my grad school days, my girlfriend has just taken the LSAT and we headed to the Bulldog to watch some SEC football. We sat at the bar and killed 2 pitchers of Andygator. I thought maybe for the second half of the game we'd go somewhere else....so I got up with the intent of going to the restroom then heading out, but sat my ass right back down and said "I think we should just stay here." LOL I was toast.

I remember a bartender there (The uptown Bulldog) saying they were supposed to serve Andygator in the half pint glasses because of it's alcohol content.


Where I grew up, we have Shipyard. They have a bunch of 5.8-6.8% beers that are very good.

Hadacol
08-17-2008, 01:24 PM
Justagirls and Andygator mix remarkably well. Sorry I wasn't there that night.

Long ago, maybe 7-8 years, the Brew Pub used to host "guest brews"; brews from other craft brewers, on tap.

Once it was an ale called "Chillsner", which was infused with chili peppers.

That was the best beer I ever had.

After a bit of research, I found the recipe/grain bill. Perhaps Mark (brewmaster at Abita, who we hired while he was finding his life's calling during grad school) would take another crack at it-though I don't know if they are still using Munton and Fison malt. That stuff, like many other grain products, has gotten crazy expensive.

Oh, and the funny part about Andygator was, that while we were honoring an award winning homebrewer, Andy Thomas, we were really just trying to make something with some serious alcoholic value, as it was primarily targeted towards a rural barn and a remarkably efficient still. It made some seriously badass beer schnapps.

Mac da Knife
08-17-2008, 01:36 PM
After a bit of research, I found the recipe/grain bill. Perhaps Mark (brewmaster at Abita, who we hired while he was finding his life's calling during grad school) would take another crack at it-though I don't know if they are still using Munton and Fison malt. That stuff, like many other grain products, has gotten crazy expensive.


Put me down for a keg.
That was some seriously wonderful brew.